Okay, so I really didn't think I cared. I am not surprised about Miggy or Gibbons, since they were two that immediately sprang to mind when I was mentally filling in the redacted parts of the affidavit. (Because seriously, that part about the one guy having the worst acne Grimsley had ever seen? Who read that and didn't go "Ha, Jay Gibbons"? Wasn't the Gibbons player journal one long acne joke?). And I don't give a shit about Clemens or Pettitte, though I know those will be the names that rock the world. I feel for the Houston fans on my f-list, though I personally don't care.

But I find myself actually kinda sorta movedtotears to know for sure that B-Rob was also named. His numbers weren't as gaudy this year as last year, which I was happy to attribute to the elbow injury, though I wondered. But... But. Oh, Brian.

And yes, yes, it's hearsay and you'd out your mother if FBI agents showed up at your door, so who knows the truth of any of it. But still.

I hate that this is coming out now. I'm excited about the playoffs! I wanna be excited about the playoffs. Houston and St. Louis are still battling for a spot. This will be the story tomorrow. And through my postseason. This is offseason talk, guys.

Also. What the fuck, Oakland? Your inability to beat Los Angeles is NOT FUNNY / Stanley.

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My eyes sort of popped out when I read Pettitte was among those names though in retrospect I guess it shouldn't be so surprising seeing that he and Clemens are work-out buddies! And there have always been rumors about Clemens ... I wonder if this will finally push them to retire or whether it'll be no big deal once it dies down. If it dies down. One of the Astros boards mentioned a possible "shitstorm". I've never payed close attention to this stuff.




From: [identity profile] ayrdaomei.livejournal.com


or whether it'll be no big deal once it dies down. If it dies down.

There's no telling with these things, is there? I'm not gonna lie, I had actually forgotten all about the Grimsley affidavit for a long while there. It was different with Palmeiro, since there was his failed test to keep coming back to. With Clemens and Pettitte, what is there to feed the story once they've issued their denials? They don't have to explain away anything. It would stay something of a hot topic for as long as Houston's season continues, but if the Astros lose tomorrow, I doubt anyone's still talking about this in two weeks.

I'm like you, I never associated Pettitte with steroids, so I'm curious to see what will happen with him, given all retirement talk earlier this year. If he does retire, so much for him going out on his own terms.

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I hate that this is coming out now. I'm excited about the playoffs! I wanna be excited about the playoffs. Houston and St. Louis are still battling for a spot. This will be the story tomorrow. And through my postseason. This is offseason talk, guys.

Which was exactly the first thing in my head. And I was suddenly very, very glad that Pettitte pitched today and not tomorrow. Because that would've been bad for him and for the team and for the fans and for anyone having to listen to a broadcast on so many levels.

I have a feeling that no matter what, the most and the least Pettitte will get is guilt by association. Which makes me feel bad for him, but I've never really regarded either him or Clemens as actual Astros because they're too ingrained in my head with other teams, so it's not going to cut me as deeply as it will others. I'm surprisingly moved about Roberts name being on there as well, though it wasn't exactly a surprise. I mean, not to a huge extent. We knew there'd be big Oriole names.

Tomorrow: Houston at Atlanta, Milwaukee at St Louis. That's what's going to matter tomorrow. Even if I have to turn the volume all the way down to make sure of it.

From: [identity profile] ayrdaomei.livejournal.com


I gotta say, I never really thought we'd hear Brian and steroids. Brian and greenies? Okay, fine. But steroids? I find it hard to fathom. **continues to repress**

I listened to most of the Braves/Astros game and some of the Marlins game today. I heard no talk at all of the LA Times story. And for that, I was grateful.
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From: [identity profile] unlovablehands.livejournal.com


whoa! your lj is different colors now!

also, i agree. this totally could have waited another three weeks, people.

From: [identity profile] ayrdaomei.livejournal.com


It is!

I didn't hear it discussed at all today during the game broadcasts I caught - did you? I guess cause there's not much to say.

From: [identity profile] sensefille.livejournal.com


The way you feel about Brian Roberts is how I felt when I saw Pettitte named. Not him! I never would have thought it.

From: [identity profile] ayrdaomei.livejournal.com


:( I'm feeling slightly better now. It's nothing more than an accusation, about both of them, and one the guy who supposedly said it denies making. It sucks that this implication is out there now, but that's all it is, right? Sigh.

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Holy shit.

I barely care about those guys and I cried anyway. I just hate everything about this. Hate the timing. Hate the possible naming of innocents. Hate the fact that I want to cover for the guilty, want to protest about pressure and expectations and the damn fucking business side of baseball. Hate that my first wish is not that there weren't steroid usage in baseball, but that I have to find out about it.

Mostly, I hate it when baseball isn't just about baseball.

From: [identity profile] owllover711.livejournal.com


Pardon the random reply, but I have to say I feel pretty much exactly the same as you do, and I'm glad to see someone put it into words so well when I wasn't able to yet. Thanks for that.

From: [identity profile] owllover711.livejournal.com


(Because seriously, that part about the one guy having the worst acne Grimsley had ever seen? Who read that and didn't go "Ha, Jay Gibbons"? Wasn't the Gibbons player journal one long acne joke?)

I must admit, that was not what sprang to my mind, but then again I still get occasional zits and I'm certainly not on steroids, so maybe I'm not the best judge of that. *blush*

Also, that playerjournal made me very angry a lot, but that's neither here nor there.

But I find myself actually kinda sorta movedtotears to know for sure that B-Rob was also named.

Oh my God, Myr. I think I sat there for ten minutes in front of the computer trying not to lose it.

I hate that this is coming out now. I'm excited about the playoffs! I wanna be excited about the playoffs. Houston and St. Louis are still battling for a spot. This will be the story tomorrow. And through my postseason. This is offseason talk, guys.

Timing? What do the media care about timing *growls*

I swear they would be happier than anything if all they had to talk about was the controversy. Forget the games, that's no big thing!

/bitter

From: [identity profile] ayrdaomei.livejournal.com


I must admit, that was not what sprang to my mind, but then again I still get occasional zits and I'm certainly not on steroids,

SO YOU SAY :P

Okay, it's not funny.

Also, that playerjournal made me very angry a lot, but that's neither here nor there.

Who was behind that, btw? I never found out.

Oh my God, Myr. I think I sat there for ten minutes in front of the computer trying not to lose it.

It just sucks. Even if it's completely bull, the implication is out there now. God. I hate so much about that season.

Timing? What do the media care about timing *growls*

I swear they would be happier than anything if all they had to talk about was the controversy. Forget the games, that's no big thing!


You know, I was genuinely surprised - I listened to parts of the Hou/Atl game and the Marlins/Phillies game and I didn't hear the LA Times story referred to once. Not that I'm complaining!

From: [identity profile] northumbrian.livejournal.com


Hey! This is [livejournal.com profile] trancifer. I kind of died but now I'm back and since my paid account was expired I opted for a new livejournal. I'm re-friending you, feel free to friend me back :D.

From: [identity profile] ayrdaomei.livejournal.com


**laughs** Welcome back! Your "I kind of died" cracked me up :P

I am rather jealous of your unencumbered new LJ existence! Every couple of months, I feel the impulse just start up anew in some fresh corner of the LJ world...but I never do.

From: [identity profile] northumbrian.livejournal.com


It's really kind of awesome. I feel like a whole new person ;D Only not really. If you ever do start new, let me know!
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